An important asset in Hassan Nasrallah's leadership over Hizbullah is his credibility. The Shiite leader has been known for doing what he promises.
The belief in Nasrallah's credibility is shared not just by his followers in the Arab World but also by his enemy – the Israelis. During the 2006 War between Israel and the Lebanese Shiite movement, Israeli journalists glorified Nasrallah's credibility regarding the developments in the battlefields. His reports were more accurate compared to the Israeli military establishment's information. Thus, it came as no surprise when during the War, a poll conducted by an Israeli daily found that the majority of Israelis believed Nasrallah more than to their own leaders.
Since the war has ended, the Israeli authorities and especially the security/intelligence apparatus have been trying to damage Nasrallah's widespread credibility. The Israelis have been making efforts to disseminate false information on his deteriorating health situation and his internal problems in leading Hizbullah following the war.
In January 2008, the charismatic Hizbullah leader said in a fiery speech that his group had the "heads" and "body parts" of Israeli soldiers, as well as "a nearly intact cadaver". "We have the heads, the hands, the feet and even a nearly intact cadaver from the head down to the pelvis," he said. "The Israeli army left behind the remains of the bodies of a large number of soldiers," said Nasrallah. At that time, the Israeli army denied these remarks.
Nasrallah waited to prove his point until June 1…. On that day, Lebanese detainee Nassim Nisr, who spent six years in Israeli jails, was released. As Nisr returned to his homeland, Hizbullah handed the ICRC with some body parts of Israeli soldiers. The Israeli media and the military establishment were surprised by Nasrallah's move. Prior to Nisr's release, Israeli officials insisted there is no agreement with Hizbullah over a swap deal.
The following day, the Israeli media had to quote Lebanese newspapers saying that Nasrallah proved his credibility once again and embarrassed the political and military leadership in Israel. "Hizbullah proves it was right when it claimed that it had the body parts of Israeli soldiers," an anonymous "security source" told the Beirut-based As-Safir newspaper.
In sum, Shiekh Hassan Nasrallah has proved again that unlike many leaders in the Arab World, he is a man who honors his words with deeds. His recent comments about an imminent prisoners exchange deal with Israel should be taken seriously, despite Israeli denials….
Other than lying about attacking the lebanese people with his weapons, like he did a few weeks ago.
He also lied about the sunni of lebanon wanting to give israel moussad a place at the beirut airport.
he is a liar, and has always been.
He used the weapons inside of the country because they needed to! The dirzies were going nuts! Without him or hezbollah.. there'd be no such thing as Lebanon, ud be called an israeli!
I have an idea... let's call anyone that opposes hezbollah, even the shiites, zionists and therefore not true lebanese, so then when hezbollah kills them, they will not technically be harming lebanese.
oh wait, that's what they are already doing.
http://www.naharnet.com/domino/tn/NewsDesk.nsf/getstory?openform&EA116E07F64EC00EC225745C00624576
Maybe that shiite cleric who opposes hezbollah is a zionist, too!
Nasrallah and Hizbullah single handedly shattered the myth about Isralei military might . Israeli military might failed to even defeat a well armed, trained and organized group like Hizbullah. Israel's last military victory was 40 years ago and nasrallah made sure it stayed that way.
Veryu silly Nima. Why don't you just think through what you are going to say before you start ranting. Losing slowly isn't the same as winning. Hizbollah lost slowly.
IDF failed to achieve its stated aims while Hezbullah remained in place amid all the might of the IDF and the silence of international community. For a guerilla organization that is success. IDF lost, and was humiliated and heads should roll for the incompetence and foolishness of its leadership.
Wishful thinking is no substitute for real success.
You assume that Israel's stated intention (the return of the two captured servicemen) was their main / sole intent. Whilst I appreciate your argument it is naive to imagine that this was the only objective of the campaign. You also assume that the objective of a terrorist or guerrilla group is simply to stay alive. They need to achieve more than not being destroyed to win even though they can package heavy defeats as mild irritations in their propoganda. Hizbollah lost a lot of manpower and was shown to be vulnerable to a government who were afraid of it. You are right though that heads should roll for the fact that the IDF's poor performance. Those heads rolled over a year ago.
maybe u should read the Vinograd report that tried to explain to your Jewish cousins and uncles why Israelis were defeated in Lebanon . Maybe u and other Jewish Taliban can explain why Israel's last military victory was more than 40 years ago..reality must hurt ha?
Perhaps YOU should read the report rather than just assuming it fits your fantasies of Islamic supremecy. It is damning but in no place does it describe a defeat. Oh are you surprised that I had read it? Ah never mind you'll get it right one day.
jimmy boy, u scum bag spare us the defelctions. Stick to the subject. Nasrallah handed a juicy defeat to Israelis and shattered the myth of israeli miltary superpower in the Middle East. Israelies are still trying to figure out what went wrong that they lost.
.. detract credibility from your already laughable argument. The issue under debate is does Nasrallah have credibility. There are several lies he has told listed here and you have yet to address a single one in any meaningful way.
do not blame your own recycled lies on others. Nassrallah is the man with dignity and honor and faith , he brought back dignity to Arab Ummah, the dignity that was lost in hands of Mubarak, kings and emirs who are too busy flirting and cooperating with Israelis.
So when his men shoot at their 'dear brethren' in the Lebanese Army (such as the shoot at a helicopter on 29th Aug 08) he still maintains his credibility does he? Either he's a liar or he has no control over his men. Either way he has no credibility at all.
HELLO? He lied about never using hezbollah arms against the lebanese, which is what he did just last month and killed dozens.
Oh yes, let us believe sayyid nasrallah!
it is way above your thinking my dear. what did u want him to do? wait for Ja3ja3 , siniora and jumbulat destroy Lebanon? Arms used to protect the arms. Scouts took care of the treaters
Nasrallah did not use his powers against true lebanese. He used his powers against the agents of Israel (who happenned to be in Lebanon) whose agenda is to weaken the power of resistance by colluding with USA.
I see, so when he says he won't use his weapons against Lebanon, he basically means the Lebanese who agree with him.
Yeah, that's reasonable. Just call the Lebanese you want to attack zionists and then its all OK.
He lied, get over it. He's about as credible as Pinocchio.
Nasrallah made a right decision to use arms against friends of Israel who had Lebanese citizenship. Those traitors were put down by the mighty arm of Hisbullah. Israel and its Lebanese friends are like shit and stink , it is hard to see one without the other.
yes, everyone who disagrees with nasrallah is colluding with the US and is a zionist, therefore they should be attacked and killed, because any true lebanese will let nasrallah do whatever he wants.
Well. They didn't use the weapons against Lebanese people. They used it against someone who wants to disarm Almoqawamah. Well, That someone happened to be Leanese this time, it could be someone else next time. I think if someone wants to disarm almoqawamah, then they're Israelis... Bottom line here ya habibi, is Silah almoqawamah.. Salam to all..
Right, because the sunni and druze are not lebanese people. The only lebanese people are the ones who support hezbollah. So, when hezbollah kills people who are against them, they are not really killing lebanese...
what stupidity
This man Has Allah by his side because he is fighting the evil in this world ,and the other cowards arab leader are paid for their treason ,may he live to see all arabs free from evil
If he is really backed by Allah then why can't he take control of Lebanon as he has been trying to do for years and why was his great campaign against Israel so pathetically futile. Allah must be a very weak god or Allah ain't backing Nasrallah.
Nassrallah believes only in one totalitarian regime and works on implementing it in Lebanon. He does not beleive in democracy, his only task is to turn Lebanon into another Iran. Also, he is a big liar, when he says he won't turn his party's weapons against Lebanese, yet he does the opposite. He accuses others of being Zionist's agents, yet when Syria and Iran talk with Israel secretively,he does not dare open his mouth. Your title for this article must be changed into: Nassrallah and his party...What A Mess!!
I want you to get to Nasrallahs level before you open your mouth, and without Hezbollah, Lebanon would have no value... Our people would be getting slaughtered everyday like todays' palestinians. Again, whats wrong with Lebanon being another Iran??? Democracy brought us nothing but despair and torture. Democracy doesnt work in Lebanon... buddy
No thanks I don't want to get to his level, because I'm not a religious fanatic like him and his party who terrorize innocent Lebanese people in their homes, work and communities . He only brought destruction to Lebanon because of his uncalculated attempts at war with Israel, trying to play the role of an “Iranian Cowboy”–only to serve Iran's and Syria's interests. You live in Canada, a democratic country and if you don't find anything wrong with Iran, then why don't you move and live in Iran or in Syria where no human rights or freedom of speech is allowed. Really, ignorance breed stupidity !!!
He could be classified as the the most respected, honoured islamic leader of the century. He who stands against the evel forces of the earth. I salute for his courage and commitments. Pray GOD to last him untill he succeeds over the Devils of this century.
i beleive as a muslim sunni from tayyar al mostakbal that belongs to Hariri , that Hassan Nasrallah is the best friend of israel , and there is a secret deal between iran , hizbollah and israel to Kill all Muslim . and Hassan nassrallah met with Olmert right after the war in 2006 , to keep Olmert in power, these information is 100 % true
Why is not this man not behind bars. Hizbullah leader said in a fiery speech that his group had the "heads" and "body parts. What god does he serve. Satan from whe I see.
I am Alhamdulliah Sunny. i pray to allah to Give the ummah many leaders like him and we will have our heads high in the sky, unfortunately, our Arab leader proved again and again they are traitors, they have sold the ummah many times in everyway, The One who distryed Faraoun will Inshallah destroy the ennemy of allah and the ummah the jews very soon, with few Nasrallahs, and allah's help, we will gain our dignity and lead the world to a safer future Inshallah. as for your Zion ellegitimate nation, we have many Nasrallahs in the making , soon you will see Allah's might.
Alhamdullillah for the Gift of Nasrallah
Watching Nasrallah over the years, I would say he carries out his threats and so he is credible in this respect. However, he is NOT truthful! He lied over and over again to the Lebanese people.
1. The nature of his relationship with Iran and Syria 2. The use of weaponry against the Lebanese people 3. The condition of his Israeli captives 4. His intentions for Hizbollah in Lebanon 5. The extent of his 'success' against Israel in 2006 6. The extent of civilian casualties in 2006 7. Shall we continue?
Yes. Please do.You seem to think you can talk about things you do not know anything about. That is perfectly OK, if one is also ready to get educated and engaged in civil discussion. Look up the interview of Sheikh Naim Ghasem with Annahar and the article by Mohsen Rafighdost in Keyhan. Of course there is an unusually close relationship between Hezbullah and the leadership in Iran and if you care about the facts, it is self evident that neither of the parties denies it. But is it also not true that the Phalanx were unusually close to Israel?
Hizbollah portrays itself as a strong party - a potential government for Lebanon and the defender of its people. It is open about having a relationship with Iran and receiving Iranian backing but sketchy on the detail. Last year the Lebanese press reported that Nasrallah had been stripped of his military command by the IRGC officers in Lebanon. The truth is Hizbollah is little more than an Iranian client and lacks independent authority from its Persian masters. So yes they have lied continually about the extent of their relationship.
Nasrallah has no agenda beyond the aggrandisement of Hizbollah and therefore himself. What has he done to better the lives of the Lebanese? He gave handouts to those who lost property in the Israeli intervention. But he started the war. There'd be no need to repair ruined houses if it weren't for him. Beside which how can an Iranian and Syrian stooge represent Lebanon?
Since when a Jewish taliban like you began to care about the lives of Lebanese? If you cared so much about lives of Lebanese then how can so much defend the destruction of residential places of Lebanon in hands of Israleis? Why can't you ever take responsibility for your own evil and the evil of other Jewish taliban and extremists? Israel started the war it had prepared for more than three month ago and lost it anyways.
1. The Taliban are Muslim - there's no such thing as Jewish Taliban. 2. I am not Jewish - how Jewish James's have you met? 3. Saying you've won an argument is very different actually winning it. 4. Taking the point the point I threw at you 12 mths ago which led to you being ridiculed on this site and trying to throw it back it me without justification is very weak.
Look up Barukh Goldstein, all religions have their Taliban. Imagine Christian fundamentalists living in a country tarnished by soviet invasion and 22 years of civil war, and believe you me they would have been more vicious than the Taleban.
Fate is lack of reason especially when the circumstances dictate harsh reactions.
Look up the Taliban. It's a MUSLIM organization. There's no such thing as Jewish Taliban. Every religion has their extremists but Nima is trying to use the word Taliban as a catch all for extremists so that he can portray religious extremism as universal whilst in fact right now (and not in the middle-ages) it really is very much a Muslim issue. Oh and Eastern Europe is very Christian and endured 40 years of Soviet rule and the after effects of two world wars and no parallel organization grew up. Stop trying to excuse Muslims from responsibility for their own actions.
Nima real people do care about the plight of the poor, the oppressed and those affected by war and disaster. That you find it hard to imagine a westerner caring about the plight of the Lebanese says more about you than me. Ask yourself the question - who is making there lives so difficult? If your answer is a blind unthinking Israel then you (living in comfort in the states removed from teh realities of war) are part of the problem not the solution.
the point is that Israel could not even defeat an armed and well trained resistance group such as Hizbullah. That is th epoint and at the end Israel had to crawl on four to negotiate with nasrallah. hmm....
How did Hizbollah 'win'? What objective was it they were trying to achieve that they succeeded in? Losing more slowly than any other army which opposed Israel? Limiting the distance Israel could invade? Or shoring up their political base with the bodies of the Lebanese people?
Didn't Nasrallah and chums recently give the Israelis the impression that they were going to conduct a prisoner exchange and then return two dead bodies. I think Nasrallah's credibility is about as low as a snake's belly.
Israel has always had this image of having one of the most effective intelligence agency Mosad and yet they had no idea that their prisoner was dead or alive? Why didn't Israelis ask the Hizbullah during the negotiations if they were alive? If Israelis were going to negotiate with Hizbullah then why did they start the war and destruction of Lebanon and lost anyway. Does anybody know who the hell is running what inIsrael?
Live by the sword, die by the sword, (2008-08-05 , 02:28) - Reply
Sooner or later... it will happen... peace and prosperity in lebanon is the end of the road for the dogs. They'll try to delay it and to maintain the status quo, but the day will come and it will eventually happen.
Are you saying it is okay to lie if the other side are cleverer than you? If not, what point are you trying to make. You're not refuting that he's a proven liar which is the point of this debate.
UN Resolution 1701 that Hassan Nasrallah said he would honor, calls for unconditional release of the abducted Israeli soldiers, and for Hezbollah to be disarmed.
February 2007, Secretary-General Ban Ki-Moon reports: "Hezbollah continues to refuse to provide any information on the release or fate of abducted soldiers, and places conditions and demands for the release that are far outside the scope of resolution 1701"
The report also points out that Hezbollah has replenished its stock of rockets and missiles
Both men were captured alive. At least one of them was forced to make propoganda broadcasts for his captors asking to go home and for an end to Israeli activity. So when did he die. Was he murdered? Well of course he was. Nasrallah is a liar and a murderer and nothing more.
The savages not only mutilated the bodies of the Israeli soldiers, but they kept it a secret from their families. Who knows how much they suffered there, how much they were tortured? The bodies were received in a severely-damaged state. One of the examiners said: “we were surprised, when we opened the caskets, to discover just how cruel. And I'll leave it at that." Where are all those human rights groups when you need them most! Perhaps they are too busy pampering terrorists at abou grib! Don't have time for Nasrallah the body parts dealer.
majority of the Lebanese victims were civilians and majority of Israelis dead were military peopel. This says Israelis as usual resorted to savagery once more, after this savagery is sanctioned and encouraged by the holy book Torah where it orders ethnic cleanisng and stealing land. Book of Numbers chapter 33 in Torah.
You're not disclaiming the fact that two prisoners were tortured, murdered and mutilated and yet Nasrallah still offered up a 'prisoner exchange'. So he lied and therefore has credibility issues. You can shout all you want but unless you are going to seek to disprove the facts you're not really doing anymore than making hot air.
UNis now useless it cannot implement ay of it resolution against ISRAEL and cannot stop illegal occupation of palastine,Iraq and Afghsnistan,so why most nasrallah will implement Israel resolution ..never
I'm not sure what you are trying to say. If you were trying to refute the fact that Nasrallah has no credibility, then you have failed miserably. Now take a deep breath and then try again.
it is funny you utter the word FACT. If u want facts these are some facts to consider.
There are outstanding UN resolution that Israel should give back the stolen lands of 1948, Israel has refused, UN resolution that says israel should give back th eoccupied terrirotires, I srael has refused. Israel goes by Jewish law (stealing land is sanctioned in Torah) not by civilized law. Nasrallah is right and he is brilliant.
Nima,the issue at stake is does Nasrallah have credibility? You're comments are, as ever, a tirade of ill informed bigotted hate directed at Israel. The relevance is minor and saying that the Israelis are all nasty savages (which is nonsense) is hardly proof that Nasrallah is great.
Can you inform what laws are contravened by the intervention in Iraq and Afghanistan? Just because you don't like soemthing doesn't make it illegal. Similarly what law is breached by the Israeli occupation of Palestinian territory?
jimmy boy a perfect Jewish talib. When Palestinains are massacred and their homes are stolen by your gun toting Jewish cousins and uncles, no jewish law is broken simply because Torah has clear instruction for ethnic cleansing and sanctions it, we are talking about civilized world laws that considers theft a crime, murder a crime, murdering a Plaestinian and stealing his land is a religious ritual for these Jewish Taliban.
What law was broken? Oh and what have Iraq and Afghanistan got to do with Israel? Stay on track or keep quiet. There are plenty of forums where your hate speeches might be vaguely relevant (although full of lies, casual racism and banlity). This is supposed to be a debate about Nasrallah not a soapbox for you to get your knickers in a twist decrying the only functioning democracy in the Middle-East.
Olympics, Beijing – No Arab Hero here, (2008-08-11 , 21:27) - Reply
The inability of the Arab world to compete with the West in any field of endeavor has been so devastating to the Arab psychology that they are desperate for someone to blame for what they and their grotesque leaders have done to their own culture. They desperately need a hero, but they have no Einstein, Neil Armstrong, Michael Jordan, Beethoven, Picasso.. etc. They prefer to blame others, to sleepwalk through history, and to cheer when tyrants and terrorists "avenge" them. Try to understand how broken the Arab world must be, how pitiful, if the celebrated Arab "triumph" is the execution of prisoners in cold blood or the bombing of a school bus.
I think you should educate yourself more and stop making ignorant comments because Arabs have Gibran khalil Gibran, Fairuz, Ibn al-Haytham, Nizar qabbani, Hassan Kamil Al-Sabbah, Elie Saab, Joe Lahoud, Samir Bannout, and the list goes on!!
So go and educate yourself.
You are right... Westerners can't compete with Arab in Arabic poetry... Brilliant... Gibran khalil Gibran said: "It takes two of us to discover truth: one to utter it and one to understand it."
There have been many great Arabs particularly in the realms of astronomy and geometry but you have an interesting list packed with Maronite Christians, individuals who only enjoyed success once they were in the US, a woman who didn't wear a veil and a scientist who was probably Persian (but might have been Arab). You're not selling your argument that well. I doubt Nasrallah would judge many of these to be heroes. There are some impressive 'heroes' in the middle-east but there is a dearth of real credible role models and it is noticeable that so many of your list are essentially Westernized.
There is no doubt that you can still find gifted Arab individuals (singers, artists, poets etc.) today. But the point is, today, the Arab world is unable compete with the West in any field of endeavor. Their heroes are tyrants and terrorists like Naser, Sadam, Osama, Nasrallah, Sadar etc. because that is all they have. Upon the toppling of the Twin Towers, Palestinians spontaneously broke out in celebration, partying and dancing in the streets. In most Muslim countries, t-shirts, posters, and other paraphernalia bearing Osama Bin Laden's likeness are commonplace. Since the September 11th attacks, "Osama" has become one of the most popular names given to newborn children in Arab countries.
What are you talking about. It is obvious you don't know that most arabs and most muslims do NOT support Osama bin laden nor do they justify his acts. You definetly can't base your arguments on a few people that support him. Such people do NOT represent most arabs!
Most Arabs do/did not support Osama, Nasrallah, Sadr, Naser, Saddam, or any specific terrorist or tyrant... but the fact that some Arab kids idolize such sadistic thugs as heroes, is a revelation of the sad state of the Arab world.
Bin Laden, Saddam, Sharon, Begin, Olmert, Shamir are all psychoptical mass murderers who committed war crimes and massacres after massacres, Nasrallah is a man of dignity, honor, values, he defeated the land worshiping Jewish Taliban and shattered beyond repair the myth about Israel's military power..military what? hahahahh
..at Israel doesn't disprove the fact that in many parts of the Muslim world people spilled onto the streets in open celebration when over 3,000 civilians were murdered by Muslims extremists. Scenes like aren't reproduced anywhere else in the world. There is something grotesque and evil at work in modern Islam.
Arabs did not vote for Osama or Saddam but Israleis voted for psychopatical mass murderer such as Sharon not once but twice, Israleis voted for another genocidal mass murderer such as Begin...no wonder thier infamous holiday Puri